--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" I have the pins & crimper, that's why I wanted to use the specific connector he's using. The problem is there are hundreds of choices from either Tyco or Amp, and all the ones I could find used the molex type crimped pin vs. the D-sup machined pins I'm familiar with. Goto http://digikey.com Do search on amp cpc -> circular housings (330 items) -> then Contact size 20 There you will find a listing of a limited number of sizes for the CPC connectors that accept the 20 AWG machined pins (a la D-sub). This series is described in AMP document http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Cat=1441934&k=cpc%20series%202 in top paragraphs of column 2 on both pages. As you can see. This particular connector is not available in many sizes. It's also more expensive than D-subs and is bulkier than a trimmed down dsub described on the website. http://aeroelectric.com/articles/macservo/macservo.html If you need more than 9 wires, use two connectors and flip the sex for the connectors so that they cannot be mis-mated. Bob . . . Bob . . . _-============================================================ _-= - The AeroElectric-List Email Forum - _-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse _-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, _-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, _-= Photoshare, and much much more: _-= _-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?AeroElectric-List _-= _-============================================================ _-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - _-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! _-= _-= --> http://forums.matronics.com _-= _-============================================================ _-= - List Contribution Web Site - _-= Thank you for your generous support! _-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. _-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution _-============================================================