Hi Richard, Although now retired I still follow the forum, so I noticed your query. The new torque tube only came in shortly before I retired at Xmas 2009, say mid 2009 from memory, so yours will definitely not be the new heavier one. Best wishes for the build, Roger Bull ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Churchill-Coleman To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention Hi Phil I received a mono kit from Roger in late 2007 and I'm ashamed to say that I haven't touched the torque tube yet to know if it is the heavier version you describe - and I haven't seen a revised build manual or Mod 73 exemption that would take it into account - please can you tell me when did you get the new version from Roger, to give me a guide as to whether mine might be the new version with my kit? Thanks regards Richard On 1 March 2011 16:56, flyingphil2 wrote: --> Europa-List message posted by: "flyingphil2" Hi Rowland, With regards to the new re-designed torque tube then I have one of these. As Roger put it to me, the new torque tube no longer has any torque. Basically the whole design has been beefed up and there are now only 2 pins involved, not 4, see attached photo. My main concern when I received this was the weight increase. My numbers are below: Old Tube: TP4 - 1350g 2 x TP5 & TP6 - 270g TP9 - 200g 2 x TP12 - 800g Total = 2.620kg or 5.776lb New Tube: TP4 - 1330g 2 x TP5 & TP6 - 330g TP9 - 1250g 2 x TP12 - 1060g Total = 3.970kg or 8.752lb - 52% above original. NB. (Pat Tunney's clamps would add 0.4kg bringing an original assembly to 3.0kg). My mind was originally put at rest when I was told that monos (or conventional taildraggers as my aircraft is likely to be) like having an aft c of g and so this additional weight at the back would be ok. I tried not to think about it too much and decided it would be ok ...... Hope that helps. Regards, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332375#332375 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com==== y Browse, Chat, FAQ, ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List" target="_blank">http:===== http://forums.mle, List Admin. =====